Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

What is the smallest/cheapest/oldest Nikon film body for G lenses with
no aperture ring? I could live without AF/AF-S function. I wouldn't want
to spend a lot, the idea is to play around with my lenses on full
format, maybe find something on ebay or KEH with a 50mm/1.8 for a
reasonable price or just a body. I would want a decent viewfinder, I'm
guessing that's a given compared to crop frame dSLRs. Someone mentioned
how small & straightforward the FE is but that requires an aperture ring
as I understand.
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Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

The FA can control the apeture of G lenses in a binary form. Open (viewing)
or closed (taking). There is no in between. So for example if you had
an F4 lens with a minimum apeture of F32, it would always open to F4
when you were focusing and close to F32 when you pressed the shutter
release. Nothing in between.
G series lenes have their apeture set via the AF contacts. The only camera
of the Nikormat type that would work is the FM3a. Older cameras like the
8008 etc were not designed to work with lenses without apeture (F stop)
rings. They will properly set the apeture in programed and shutter priority
mode.
They are not designed to set the apeture in manual and apeture priority
modes.
Geoff.
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Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

"Philip Homburg" <philip@ue.aioy.eu> skrev i en meddelelse
The 'silver' one....is pure metal (aluminium).
Are you sure it will work in shutter priority and program mode with this
body? .....the camera does not need the information about the max.
apperture?
(the G-lenses probably don't have the mechanical transfer of this informaion
to
the camera body? )
But if is works the FA will be the perfect choice.


Max Perl


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In article <ngivl2lh1mvsmbnknnubtanrdlb8gam9ug@4ax.com>,
That doesn't make any sense. Are you saying that the screen stays dark
when you put a G lens on an FA.
Normally (and I think I verified that when I played with a DX lens), the
aperture opens when you mount the lens, no matter whether the camera
supports G lenses or not.
It is just that camera has to control the aperture, something the FA
should be able to do. (In program and shutter priority mode).
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Philip@ue.aioy.eu (Philip Homburg)


Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

In article <scO7h.8545$IR4.6416@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
The 'silver' doesn't like like any kind of metal to me.
The FA is essentially the same body as the FM/FE/FM2/FE2/FM3a.
You can't select the aperture directly. But it is supposed to work
in shutter priority and program mode.
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Philip@ue.aioy.eu (Philip Homburg)


Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 00:10:05 +0100, philip@ue.aioy.eu (Philip Homburg)
wrote:
I'm afraid the FA is no better than any other manual focus lens
when it comes to G lenses. All you get is stop-down metering
at minimum aperture.
I verified this myself with my FA (purchased new in 1988) and
a 24-120mm VR (purchased much later).
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Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

I've got the new one in black, but it is metal, I don't know if the
silver one is painted.
Oh, I like that one! It looks like an old square-ish metal body (though
it is plastic?) & seems to sell for around $150. It looks to be not
particularly small but that's ok if it's affordable, looks cool & meters
all my lenses. Hmmm manual focus, that's ok... aw crap... now I see it
won't work with G lenses.
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Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

"Philip Homburg" <philip@ue.aioy.eu> skrev i en meddelelse
Then it should be a 5.0cm Nikkor-S :-) ...... the 50/2 Nikkor-H can
be found in both versions (Nippon Kogaku and Nikon)...but the HC is always
Nikon.


Max Perl


Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

In article <455f8dc5$0$176$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk>,
I don't like the fake metal finish on the 48/2.8P.
Yes.
The FA is much better with G lenses as it allows you control the
aperture in shutter priority mode and in program mode.
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could believe what it liked, including the idea that it had been hard done
by. It was allowed to keep its horse, since horses were so cheap to make.
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Philip@ue.aioy.eu (Philip Homburg)


Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

"Paul Furman" <paul-@-edgehill.net> skrev i en meddelelse
The FM3A is a nice camera and the 45/2.8P looks much nicer without
the hood.
It you put a G-lens on it all pictures would be shot at smallest apperture?
Eg at 22 if this is the smallest?
A F5 is not small....but not that expensive anymore. If you buy private you
could probably get a nice one for USD 300 or so?
It is not at bad film camera choice.......


Max Perl


Re: Simplest Nikon film body for G lenses?

In article <455f65e8$0$148$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk>,
You mean that modern stuff, where the focal length is specified in mm
(instead of cm), with distance scales also in meters (instead of just
feet), and where Nippon Kogaku has been replaced with Nikon. :-)
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