Film is obselete?

Hi, I am thinking of getting a film SLR camera for Christmas this year
and I was kind of worried that maybe soon people won't be selling film
or developing film any more. Is there any chance of the price of film
skyrocketing and the price of developing film skyrocketing?
The guy at the store told me that the only difference now that digital
out is that there isn't as much variety different of film available
anymore. He told me that film costs the same.
Thanks,
Andrew

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Re: Film is obselete?

In article <SM6dnasy-oF3tv_YnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@inreach.com>,
I guess I'm missing the point. My cameras have batteries because I
want TTL lightmeting, and with slides, a spot meter.
Having a separate light meter strikes me as a bad trade off compared to
spare set of batteries.
And then you use different cameras depending on the focal length,
which seems extremely odd.
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Philip@ue.aioy.eu (Philip Homburg)

Re: Film is obselete?

"John McWilliams" <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote
For those who may be interested, or have trouble falling asleep:
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=115911&p=irol-irhome&CID=exit&idhbx=investor
And follow the link to the 10K disclosure and the annual report
where you will be treated to such stunning insights into to Kodak's
inner workings as:
"Traditional products and services for the consumer are sold
direct to retailers and through distributors throughout the
world. Price competition continues to exist in all market-
places. To be more cost competitive with its traditional
product offerings, the Company is continuing to rationalize
capacity."
If you can divine any useful information from the reports then
Kodak's accountants weren't doing their job.
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Nicholas O. Lindan

Re: Film is obselete?

Light meters are not *required* at all. Sunny 16 rule.
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David Starr

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The OP said modern cameras don't work without batteries. I said I have one that
does. I never said it was more valuable. BUT - if a specialized battery a
camera needs is discontinued.........
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David Starr

Re: Film is obselete?

No, you didn't under stand, I have a Topcon Super D that has a 70 to 210
zoom and when I use it I turn on the meter, take a reading with the BTL
meter, and then turn OFF the meter after I have set the lens to the meter
seting. My other cameras have no meters so with them I use my hand held
meters.
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Starlord

Re: Film is obselete?

Well, I *LOVE* the results from Ektachrome 160T when I can find an
excuse to shoot it.


Pudentame

Re: Film is obselete?

This is the problem what Kodak has, they know how to make good profits
off of film but the market is going away. The digital market if
growing and they are getting pretty good sales volume but the market is
a lot tougher with lower margins. At this point Nikon and Canon are
the two companies that seem to have the formula right and are both
making very good money off of DSLRs.
But the bulk of the cash that they can make off of film will be in the
next three years or so, after that
the volume will be so low it almost won't matter.
In five years if they can make it with out revenue from film sale then
they aren't going to make it any how.
Scott


Scott W

Re: Film is obselete?

I think that's the "special items removed".
And there's a lot of quirky accounting in some of that. I expect the
loss is actually on paper, they're taking a write down on manufacturing
equipment they no longer use after getting out of the photo-paper business.
This is all something to do with IRS rules. They're reporting losses for
taxes when they are actually making a profit. You can tell that because
Wall Street is happy and the stock is up 3%.
But if you read it carefully, it looks like most of the "loss" is from
digital not quite meeting expectations.
It's not really a good trade off if you want to be around making a
profit 5 years (or 10 or 25) from now, but most corporations don't think
any farther ahead anymore than the quarterly P&L and the CEO's annual bonus.


Pudentame

Re: Film is obselete?

<snip>
Reciprocity does not apply to digital cameras, only to film. OTOH, hot
pixels and noise with long exposures can be a problem with digitals.
Colin D.
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Colin_D

Re: Film is obselete?

In article <1164046617.811962.232220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Is there any Kodak film that is worth buying?
Kodak slide film seems expensive compared to what Fuji offers and I'm not
sure how it is supposed to be better. For print film there is 160NC, but
I like 160S and Reala better.
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could believe what it liked, including the idea that it had been hard done
by. It was allowed to keep its horse, since horses were so cheap to make.
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