Problem loading files into Photoshop.

I have windowsXP and Photoshop5.5
I am annotating many jpeg pictures from a
large collection and I do this by adding text
with photoshop.
Normally I load the images into Photoshop
from Windows Explorer by selecting, say 6
images, and dragging them all at once onto
the Photoshop toolbar button.
But there seems no way to arrange the
transferred images so that they end up in
Photoshop in ascending order.
I need ascending order to make the adding of
text easier, since I can use all or part of
the text of the previous related image by
cutting and pasting.
Please help, Frank

Peter Jason

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

Hi
The OP and others were talking about Jpegs, and they can not be saved with
layers.
I was not meaning layered Tiffs, just flattened files.
There seemed to be some confusion about how to apply, or reduce the degree
of compression when saving Jpegs. The OP seemed to think the size reduction
was due to his editing, rather than omitting to read the compression level
in the Jpeg Dialogue box.
Another poster seemed to advise that he should use "Save for Web" to
control the size, but was actually only advocating using "Save for Web" to
vary the Jpeg compression level.
I felt, and still do, that using a lossless format such as PSD or Tiff would
be more sensible than using Jpeg. I was then told that PSD is not
transferrable to other versions of Ps or any other program. (neither
strictly true of course, but who am I to argue)
Hence my suggestion to use Tiff.
Roy G


Roy G

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

will a layered TIFF open in other programs with the layers??
sometimes it will only show the top layer of the tiff, often an adjustment
layer or other single layer that doesn't look right without the rest.
for example open a layered tiff in windows picture fax viewer and see


KatWoman

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

I love your sig quote Aaron


KatWoman

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

so far the most practical answer and to that I would add you can make
endless copies and edits of your lossless file (Tiff or PSD) and then use
save for web for the jpg copy
workflow
orig camera jpeg>open in PS.add text and edits in layers above original>save
as layered tiff or psd>make a new jpg with "save for web" if you need
internet sized images
or save a full size and res jpg at 12 for highest quality,
or make an action to do both.


KatWoman

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:25:04 +1000, "Peter
To me that's ruining the shot. Cropping
always puts it at, what's missing here ?
And only way then is with the original. and
if the original has marks, you're still stuck
with what's missing ?
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How else then are we to record these details?
I have found that the computer file system
can be volatile, because if the image is
adjusted in Photoshop and other software then
the "date" property of the image disappears!
With a discreet watermark these details are
imbedded forever.
Regards


Peter Jason

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

To me that's ruining the shot. Cropping always puts it at, what's missing=
here ?
And only way then is with the original. and if the original has marks, =
you're still stuck with what's missing ?
--=20
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Keepout@yahoo.com.invalid

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:53:01 +1000, "Peter
I hope you have more than a fisheye. I've
never used one. never saw any real appeal for
shots that you couldn't identify even one
object in the shot. I preferred telephotos
that could grab shots that would take me an
hour to walk to get to them.
The large files, and high resolution is to
save details in the shots.
As long as you're going to ruin the shots
with text and watermarks, you might as well
go with irfanview. I suspect IV can handle
tiff. It does almost every other format. Even
has a TIFF mask pull down. So I'd say IV will
ruin the photos just fine for you.
And you can make them larger or smaller with
IV. But if the shots worth taking, I'd stick
them on a CD or DVD in the original TIFF
format before doing anything else with them.
With jpeg you should go with the IPTC and
comments keeping the image itself free from
garbage. PSD can do IPTC, I don't know how
many other formats can, but with IPTC you
don't ruin the image.
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Thanks everyone for the replies.
I don't ruin the shots with watermarks etc.
The watermarks are just a thin strip across
the very bottom of the photo giving the
date/time and exposure details.
The description and details are put into a
white strip at the bottom via the "canvas
size" property of Photoshop.
All this takes up little more than about 2%
of the photo at the very bottom, and with can
be easily cropped if necessary.
Regards.


Peter Jason

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

Please also read Dan Heller's excellent blog post on JPG versus RAW
formats for digital photography. Dan Heller is a somewhat renowned and
successful travel photographer.
http://danheller.blogspot.com/2006/07/business-aspects-of-raw-vs-jpg-mode.html
handle the images in PS.
--
Aaron
"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems
good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the
rest." -- John Stuart Mill


Aaron

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

I hope you have more than a fisheye. I've never used one. never saw any =
real appeal for shots that you couldn't identify even one object in the =
shot. I preferred telephotos that could grab shots that would take me an =
hour to walk to get to them.
The large files, and high resolution is to save details in the shots.
As long as you're going to ruin the shots with text and watermarks, you =
might as well go with irfanview. I suspect IV can handle tiff. It does =
almost every other format. Even has a TIFF mask pull down. So I'd say IV =
will ruin the photos just fine for you.
And you can make them larger or smaller with IV. But if the shots worth =
taking, I'd stick them on a CD or DVD in the original TIFF format before =
doing anything else with them.
With jpeg you should go with the IPTC and comments keeping the image =
itself free from garbage. PSD can do IPTC, I don't know how many other =
formats can, but with IPTC you don't ruin the image.
--=20
more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html


Keepout@yahoo.com.invalid

Re: Problem loading files into Photoshop.

A couple of points!!
In the real world it depends what you are going to use the images for!
If you were an estate agent for instance and doing this sort of thing every
day and were going to print off images for a cheap paper brochure to hand to
dozens of clients and maybe put further images online, then all you need is
jpeg. If you intend to open the images just once to annotate them in
Photoshop, then I would still say jpeg, the reason being that you would
never notice the slight degradation of the image!
If however you are going to print them in a glossy magazine or book and may
well make a number of changes to the images over a course of time, resaving
on each occasion, then it is important to use a lossless format, Psd or
Tiff.
For anything in between these extremes, it is a judgement call for
yourself!!
As far as annotations go, have you considered using your camera's inbuilt
facility to add text to the image?


Harry Limey

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