Preparing jpegs for website

PS CS2
col space adobe RGB(1998)
the images look great in PS on a calibrated monitor. But when they are
uploaded and viewed in a browser (e.g. IE which isnt a col managed
program) they look darker and duller.
what steps can I take to compensate and have them appear on the web as
they look in PS
thanks

Franko


Re: preparing jpegs for website

For graphics (not photographs) to be published on the web you should
just turn off color mangement in photoshop at all. (You can do this on a
per document base.)
But often JPEG is not the best format in this case...
Regards,
Manfred Grebler


Manfred Grebler


Re: preparing jpegs for website

Well I did that, and unfortunately when I look at the jpegs on the
website with IE they still look darker & duller than they look in
photoshop.
Because I had many images, I used the Image Processor (in Scripts) to
batch convert them to jpegs, and there is a check box to convert to
sRGB and also at the bottom to embed the profile.


Franko


Re: preparing jpegs for website

pretty
otherwise
could
other RGB
I can remember a Generic RGB profile since at least Photoshop 7, I
assume it comes with it... I am running CS now, though.
--
Aaron
"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems
good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the
rest." -- John Stuart Mill


Aaron


Re: preparing jpegs for website

Hi
I noticed you mentioning Generic RGB, what is that?
I don't see a profile anywhere for Generic. sRGB and all sorts of other RGB
but no Generic.
Roy G


Roy G


Re: preparing jpegs for website

If it's an actual photograph and it ends up on Flickr (or even on my own
gallery), I'm less concerned with actual color values and more concerned
with relative color values. I never Save For Web if it's a photograph,
anyway; I just want a max. quality JPEG.
But for web graphics where a range of color is meant to match with a hex
color on the page (a heading graphic for example), some of these color
management issues do rear their ugly heads.
All I am doing is offering my experience with sRGB and Generic RGB with
regard to saving web GRAPHICS (not photographs!) and the Save For Web
function.
--
Aaron
"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems
good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the
rest." -- John Stuart Mill


Aaron


Re: preparing jpegs for website

[..]
Some do, some don't.
Safari, for instance, does. If there's no embedded color profile, the
1.0.x versions of Safari assume the monitor's profile (which is a pretty
stupid thing to do). In 2.0.x, Safari assumes sRGB unless told otherwise
by the image file.
Other browsers do things differently.
So: The best practice when it comes to color on the web: Convert your
image to sRGB. Embed a color profile into it when you save it (PS has a
check box for this). And keep in mind that services like Flickr will
often scale the image locally and ignore the color profile. If you could
assume all elements in the chain were color managed, then any old
profile would do. But you can't, so it won't. :-)


Usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)


Re: preparing jpegs for website

Not necessarily. You can click a checkmark if you want an embedded
profile. It's under the 'Progressive' checkmark.
--
Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl
Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl


Nomail@please.invalid (Johan W. Elzenga)


Re: preparing jpegs for website

Who told you that nonsens? (We are talking about photos saved as JPEG,
don't we?)
Browsers do not consider color profiles. Anyway, when you use "Save for
Web" any color profile in the image will be removed.
Regards,
Manfred Grebler


Manfred Grebler


Re: preparing jpegs for website

window
result in
converted
One other thing. I don't have this problem on my Mac; I use sRGB usually
as the color space and for some reason the output matches hex colors
perfectly, but on my PC at work, it does not. Both systems were
calibrated with my Monaco EZcolor Optix. Just quirks you run into, I
guess.
--
Aaron
"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems
good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the
rest." -- John Stuart Mill


Aaron


Re: preparing jpegs for website

within
converts
'Save for
look
Colors must often match the hex colors provided in the HTML. I find that
Generic RGB is the only profile that makes this happen consistently.
This precise fact makes PNG practically unusable for the web, because it
supports color profiling that is implemented differently across
browsers. Some browsers incorrectly adjust them, others do nothing at
all (which is actually better for the designer.)
--
Aaron
"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems
good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the
rest." -- John Stuart Mill


Aaron


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