Re: Leice R9 System Goes Digital--What A Monstrosity! I can understand people buying and using Bessa bodies. I have a Bessa that I use occasionally. But I think you have missed my point. My point is that the Zeiss Ikon is little more than a Bessa with a different outer casing and a better viewfinder. But it costs twice as much as a Bessa without being any more robust in use. Whether the outer casing is plastic or metal is immaterial - in each case, the film transport and shutter are pure Bessa. So save 50% of the cost of the Zeiss Ikon and buy a Bessa! I would happily recommend a Bessa to an light user who took care of his/her gear, or to a heavy user who took risks and needed to be able to buy a cheap replacement - such as the skateboard shooters you mention. The rangefinders need constant adjustment even if the camera is treated with great care, which I would find intensely annoying. It is yet another reason for me to avoid a Bessa. In fact I have five Leica M bodies, two M7s, an M3, a CL and a Minolta CLE. I tend to use the M7s with 24mm and 35mm lenses mounted, and carry 15mm (Voigtländer) and 90mm (Leica) lenses in my bag. I sometimes use the M3 with 50mm (Leica) and 90mm lenses - the 0.92X viewfinder and accurate frame lines make 90mm shooting a breeze. The point is that Zeiss did not initiate the project. Nor did Zeiss drive it. They merely approved it, licensed it, took royalties and offered two grossly overpriced German-made lenses. Now the Hasselblad deal has failed, Zeiss, who have not marketed 35mm cameras and lenses for over 30 years, have been forced to take over distribution. That's how desperate the situation is. No, Cosina did all the pushing! Mr Kobayashi of Cosina saw an opportunity to make Zeiss lenses after Kyocera ended the Contax licensing deal with Zeiss. I don't think our views are very far apart. Also, I just bought a brand new Konica Hexar RF with full warranty. ;-) The casing is not the issue here. The point is that the film transport and shutter of the Zeiss Ikon are no better than those in the Bessas costing half the price. The Bessa mechanical parts do not remotely approach Leica standards, and the Zeiss Ikon mechanical parts are identical to these, despite costing twice as much. On the contrary, a healthy used market strongly encourages people to trade up to new. What do you expect? It cost more than twice as much as a Bessa but the only enhancement was the different paint that was sprayed on to the body. You could do the same with a can of auto spray paint. Frankly, I don't see why they should! Not at all, but the vignetting is significant. I am referring in particular to tests done by the highly respected Geoffrey Crawley and published in "Amateur Photographer", but other detailed tests I have access to (they are unpublished) have shown similar results. I got out in time. <g> I am delighted that I chose Rollei over Hasselblad for my medium format outfit. I don't want them to fail. But we aren't talking about Zeiss, we are talking about Cosina. Until Hasselblad were removed as distributor, the Zeiss involvement was very tiny indeed. Think of it as a franchise. Kyocera bought a Zeiss franchise, made a lot of money out of it and finally gave it back. Now the franchise has been sold on, and the new franchisee is Cosina. I have no love affair with Leica (the company) or even with Leica bodies. They are well made and mostly reliable, but have some annoying features as a result of placing a higher priority on tradition than overall usability. What I do love is the Leica lenses, and as long as I can buy film and find a body to use them on, I will be happy. I would just prefer that the body would be something better than a Bessa. Whether it is called "Voigtländer" or "Zeiss Ikon" makes no difference. They are all Bessas. Tony Polson
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