[SI] Shoot-In - More come trickling in

Another late arrival (took the wrong fork) at
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/river
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Al Denelsbeck


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I saw a bubble level to fit in the flash mount at Calumet but jeeze it
was like $40 or more. If I'm using a tripod it's usually not a problem
to get level it's all my handheld stuff that goes crooked.
BTW I finaly got a Lihof LLN9051 ball head (very small simple german
minimalist thing) and a Gitzo Reporter G1298 which is their own version
of a semi carbon material. It fits in the outside of by small pack &
sets up pretty quick. Now to get a cable release for the D200 or is it
possible to use mirror lockup and the timer? I think not. The Nikon
release seems over priced, not sure about the third part options & I'd
be happy with an old fashioned bulb type cable but not possible.
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Paul Furman


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I don't think that "leveling" an image is going to far wrt the rulz. In
PS just turn on the grid and custom rotate the image, crop off the
lopsides and you're done.
I'm slowly becoming a fan of my geared tripod head as it's much less
fussy to get a dead level horizon or vertical alignment. Not as fast
work as a ball head, but much easier to work each axis accurately.
Certainly better with the Hassy.
Cheers,
ALan
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Alan Browne


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I've been following the ultra-compensation threads recently over on APUG.
Things like stand or semi-stand developing for periods of hours in
ultra-dilute Rodinal. Say 1+200 for several hours, or overnight. Or even
in a refrigerator for days or weeks.
Don't think I want to go *that* far, but I'm curious enough to want to give
the more conservative approaches a try. One fellow even purchased one of
those one piece, horizontal paper safes for 8x10 size and uses it as a
"daylight" stand processor for his 8x10 sheet film. Great idea.
Ken


Ken Nadvornick


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Right now it's more a matter of fiding out
I've been using HP-5+ in Rodinal for years, and found it to be my best
combination. But w/ HP-5+, you have to use a stronger (1:25) dilution. If
you want the fuzzy 40s look, 1:50@10 mins will get that, and the razor sharp
edges look can be had with 1:25 @ 8 min. The beauty of Rodinal is that you
can dilute it to the point where it dies like a dog in the hi-lites. Oops;
Agfa used to prefer "compensating". I find HC110 to be too critical, more
grainy, and I can't seem to find a consensus on exactly what Dil. B is, but
on the plus side, it seems to last forever.
Bob Hickey


Bob Hickey


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PS: With regard to Square America (Rejected by 'Contact Me')
"Wonderful!
My kind of photography: life as it is/was actually lived.
Do you follow eBay seller "gargantua" auctions? They close
Sunday evenings, and are always worth a look.
Here's my idea of a just-about-perfect photo: some poignant
stories in the setting and personalities, I'm certain.
http://static.flickr.com/27/103511914_cedc804931_o.jpg "
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Frank ess


Frank ess


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I'm with Nicholas.
Content. Content. Content.
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Frank ess


Frank ess


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I had trouble replying iin the other thread so I'll re-do here"
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sky on my
Yes, higher quality jpeg compression should help but also that shot has
fine detaill so it could become quite a large file. It's possible that
applying some blur to the sky only would help.
BTW I made a late submission as well... also quite dry but the clouds
above have caused this river to now be flooding the whole desert now.
This is the only river that flows from Mexico, North into the US and it
is an un-damned wild river. http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/64213290
I'm still on vacation in AZ (from CA) and on dialup so not visiting here
much. I have been shooting prolifically though, the bottom dozen or so
galleries here: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Southwest
for example:
<http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Southwest/2006-07-27-banning-cr&PG=1&PIC=4>
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Paul Furman


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"Michael Benveniste" <mhb-offer@clearether.com> wrote
What about these:
http://www.squareamerica.com/
I prefer to peruse vernacular/found/primitive photography
than photo.net's 'highest rated latest submissions'.


Nicholas O. Lindan


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"Michael Benveniste" <mhb-offer@clearether.com> wrote
I always correct horizons to horizontal in my "traditional
photographic processes" -- I would think it odd not too. I
don't subscribe to the full-frame affectation. I suppose one
can also add a filed-out negative carrier in PS.
Depends. In one hundred years the photo will look interesting,
and maybe more interesting just because it is not posed to make
things look like other than they really are.
Tilt looks about 2-3 degrees and I find it excessive. I have a
hard time keeping things level so I use a gridded screen [Nikon
'E'] in my cameras.


Nicholas O. Lindan


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"William Graham" wrote (to Ken):
"Michael Benveniste" responded:
"William Graham" replied:
Several points here, I think...
[1] William is right, the verticals do look OK. A vertical edge lined up
against the antenna of the foreground boat matches up just fine. So too
against the piling to the left of the flag in the background, and almost so
against the telephone pole beyond to the right of the flag. Topography is
rarely perfectly horizontal, but gravity is always perfectly (for
photographic purposes) vertical.
[2] Regarding "manipulations comparable to what those done in traditional
photographic processes" I think you would also be in the clear, as a
post-processing digital tilt correction would simply be simulating the
effect of rotating your darkroom enlarging easel slightly to square up a
composition prior to print exposure. With sufficient enlarging lens
depth-of-field, this technique also works in the z-axis to help correct
non-parallel verticals or horizontals resulting from incorrect film plane
orientation. (I know Mr. Benveniste knows this, but others may not have
considered it.)
[3] As for my case, I have tried the tilting feature in The Gimp 2.0 and
found it seriously wanting for my purposes. Perhaps PS is an improvement,
but I can't see how it could be. The problem is that my error is usually in
the 1-3 degree range of tilt needing to be corrected. Rotating for this
small of an amount introduces distortion which takes the form of an
introduced mushiness in the digitized reproduction.
I attribute this to the fact that the closer to zero degrees of rotation one
goes, the less scanned pixels the rotation algorithm has to work with. At
some point the logic would have to start skipping some pixels while shifting
adjacent ones (the stair-step effect), thus resulting in an overall loss of
visual sharpness. This effect would be analogous to the way pixel-rendered
lines look better at a 45 degrees tilt than at a 1 degree tilt.
Since my use of digital technology is self-limited to only reproducing
silver prints for sharing online, I limit myself to only attempting to copy
them as faithfully as possible - a seemingly impossible task at times.
Correcting tilts at this stage digitally would be akin to altering the
representation of the original work, thereby violating the Prime Directive
(sez Mr. Spock... ;).
Although I could back up one level and rotate the print itself on the
scanning bed, a better solution for me would be to back up two levels and
rotate the easel in the darkroom, thus creating a correct original silver
print from the get-go. In fact, I have done this on occasion when
necessary.
Even better would be for me to have learned of my tendency for crooked
horizons from generous comments in the SI, then subsequently paid attention
when my eye was at the viewfinder before I released the shutter, thereby
getting it correct on the negative itself. And maybe just quit
procrastinating and purchase that darned Type 'E' Nikon screen.
Ken


Ken Nadvornick


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