I like Rineke Djikstra

What a true Zen master; mindboggling minimalism.
http://images.google.com/images?q=Rineke+Dijkstra
"Rineke Dijkstra documents people in transitional moments: mothers
shortly after giving birth, young people entering the military,
matadors still bloody from a bullfight, young club kids just off the
dance floor, and preadolescent bathers on various beaches in the United
States and Eastern Europe. Formally, her images resemble classical
portraiture with their frontally posed figures isolated against minimal
backgrounds. Despite their uniformity, however, Dijkstra's pictures
deftly expose the emotional state of her individual sitters. Although
she isolates the subjects in her Beaches series (1992-96) and frames
them with only sea and sky, the artist reveals much about them by
capturing a subtle gesture or expression in these unguarded moments
that reside somewhere between the posed and the natural. In
photographing the already awkward young subjects in their bathing
suits, Dijkstra sets up a situation marked by a self-consciousness that
parallels the uneasy passage between childhood and adulthood."
"Dijkstra concentrates on single portraits, and usually works in
series, looking at groups such as adolescents, clubbers, and soldiers.
Her subjects are shown standing, facing the camera, against a minimal
background."

Casioculture@gmail.com

Re: I like Rineke Djikstra

Andy Warhol was operating in just such a vein, but seemed slightly
less subtle and with just a little different focus. Not that there is
anything wrong with that.
Seems to me "Art" or the Art-ness of a given display is likely to fall
somewhere on the Gaussian curve of worthiness. Each of us will develop
a sense of standard deviations from the mean, and I think agree in a
surprising number of cases. The instances when there is little accord
are those whose resonances do not immediately succumb to blending
effects of statistics; they will, eventually.
I still think Rineke's art earns a place on the Art curve, perhaps
even a bit above the mean; however, like the sad-eyed puppies and
children of yesteryear, the proportion of crap-content is relatively
high. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's just a little
irritating that someone loves their adoptive, retarded children more
than mine.
--
Frank ess


Frank ess

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In article <1154723269.917823.11240@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
Yes, it's a good DVD (Disraeli Gears by Cream). Not only do you get the
songs, but you get the history of how they did each one with interviews
from the past and recently with Cream and others who know them.
-- Lou Pecora (my views are my own) REMOVE THIS to email me.


Lou Pecora

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They do me. The emotion is amazement that anybody would actually pay good
money for such crap. And awe for Rineke's abilities as a con woman. And
disgust with myself for not thinking of so obvious a scam.
A friend of mine studied the content of hundreds and hundreds of years of
art over some decades of her life, even ran a major museum for a while, and
she does not even pretend that that gives her the ability to _create_ art.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


J. Clarke

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but this is where they say it is art, because it annoys people. They
don't care HOW it annoys, but that it does. Even if it comes down to
crass incompetence, or deliberate use of a controversial subject with
no artistic merit other than that it IS controversial then it is art.
I can enjoy pictures from all sorts of photographers and painters and
they're not even always technically good, or even really interesting
but just something that catches the eye. I don't mind that casio says
he thinks these are brilliant, if that's how he feels about them then
great, but I kind of get the feeling that he posted these knowing
exactly the reaction he would get, as the Tate shows art knowing
exactly the reaction it will get. Then they can run around shouting
"They must be fools because they just don't see!"
--
Paul (Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs)
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Paul Heslop

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Call me ignorant too. I think they are woeful. You said yourself,
quite early in this thread:
"..you can recreate this shot on any English afternoon within minutes
perhaps.."
"..nevermind that the picture looks like it was shot with a disposable
point and shoot.."
Don't those words tell *you* something?
Sadly a significant amount of art is an accident. Sometimes it has
nothing to do with quality images - a series of blurred/mangled rubbish
can often become 'art'. Why? Why NOT? Art is all about desirability.
Not about being technically, or even artistically good. And it can
also be about luck (or luck-by-design - if you happen to know an art
gallery curator/collector/raconteur, pretty well *anything* can be made
into a desirable collection...)
And if you *want* drab/boring/fuzzy/technically incompetent images for
effect/mood (and they *can* be very effective, don't get me wrong -
I'll Holga with the best of 'em!) - why not use *exactly* that type of
image, and call them art?
Is there anything wrong with that? Nope.
Is there anything wrong with people like Paul (and me) calling it
rubbish? Nope.
Should images like these be promoted as something to aspire to? (grin)
Why don't *you* answer that, casio? - and tell us how *you* would go
about it. Or if you don't ewant to, why not exactly? You've already
indicated that it should be easy to take similar shots... so.... ???
On what basis precisely? That they are in a *few* museums/collections?
That they sell for a lot of money? They are pretty bad/sad criteria
in my opinion, so I'm hoping you have other reasons.
I think a much better test for art is that the object/image invokes
emotion in a powerful way... For me, these don't even come close to
doing so.
So you are saying that doesn't happen? Or just *here*..?
Then can you briefly summarise your conclusions for us about what makes
a fine art piece, or did you mean *Rineke* did that (and that ergo we
must accept that whatever she does is art to the finest degree)..?
Signed,
The Devil's Avocado... (O;


Mark.thomas.7@gmail.com

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or are on some serious drugs... oops, no point in explaining the
obvious :O)
--
Paul (Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs)
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Paul Heslop

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:O) I do enjoy looking at old photographs yet when I do now I am
struck by how bad they are aswell as how much I still enjoy them.
--
Paul (Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs)
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Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/


Paul Heslop

Re: I like Rineke Djikstra

That's a good point. Same applies to fashion photography. Most of the
models look like they have an appointment after the shoot to have a
colonoscopy.
--
Bill in Lake Charles


Bill

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IOW, if you take blurry, black & white photographs at a tilted angle of
people who are not smiling, you will instantly be recognized as a great
artist, and you will be on the road to fame and fortune.......But I took
these kind of pictures when I was 5 years old....I have spent my whole life
learning to take straight, sharp pictures of smiling people.....Now you tell
me that I have wasted my whole life learning how NOT to be an artist......


William Graham

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and they should be ever so slightly fuzzy/blurred
--
Paul (Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs)
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