35mm film, how much longer?

I have a D70s digital SLR, but recently I'm finding an attraction to going
back to film. I'd like some professional estimations on how long 35mm film
will still be available, and used in the U.S. Not necessarily main stream,
but still fairly common?
Thanks,
Tom

Tom Williams

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

Hello Peter,
Perhaps because when there is no film, then digital imaging will not
need to be compared to film. Also, at whatever future point in time that
happens, a digital camera might just be called a camera.
The funny thing is that oil paints are vastly obsolete technology, yet
there are several companies still making them. I know, not film . . .
but at least with B/W films a very small operation can make these, and
provide chemicals to process them. If someone really wants to do some
unusual imaging, like processes from over one hundred years ago, there
is plenty of information available to make it possible.
I think it is mostly the practical aspect that when someone's local
store, or local lab no longer have anything to do with film processing,
or selling film, then film is essentially gone. Just look at Scott W.
living on the big island in Hawaii: no place to buy film, no lab to
process it . . . leaving no other choices for convenience.
Ciao!
Gordon Moat
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Gordon Moat

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

Of which I currently have two.
Hurricane Fran, the power was out for at least a week. No TV, no ice, no
microwave popcorn, but the damn alarm clock worked.
But I suspect that there may be some areas where film is more
Actually I think the 1-hr places will probably hang in the longest. Most
are already digital hybrid, and if you've got a working system that does
process film, why not go ahead and process film?
I have one I use whenever I shoot 35mm C-41; have them process it w/o
any frills i.e. no CD, no cute little mini-contact sheet, no prints at
all - "Cut 'em in strips of 5 please. Here's the sleeve to put 'em in."
Take 'em home and look at 'em to see if there's anything I want to
print. If I do, I scan it, tweak it in Photoshop (levels, curves, crop -
spot out dust ... resize to print size) and then take it back to get a
genuine digital RA-4 process print.
All that's left then is mount it, frame it and find some sucker to buy it.
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No_name

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

Lots of people do....Check out some of these links:
http://www.best-price.com/procSystem,showProductSearchByUserSearch,,0,Horse+Drawn+Carriage.html


William Graham

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

Yes. Does it matter? People belive in all kinds of weird things. Or
conversly, weirldy enough don't believe in well known facts ... Beliefs
are not really a goo dindicator of facts or future trends.
The manufactire of professional films has not really changed though.
That is not so certain. A lot of esp. elderly people won't. Because of
ease of use really.
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Sander
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Sander Vesik

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

I had trouble today getting film developed ... in anything less than 24h
that is, because the machines at the place I normaly develop film were
simply too busy. Summer appears to have brought on a large increase of
film use compared to ... say spring. UNprecedentedly warm and cludless
summer in Europe probably helped.
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Sander
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Sander Vesik

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

If the major players were to license the formulae, someone would make the
stuff.
Of course, it would not be of much value if the photofinishers, chemical
manufacturers, enlarger manufacturers, etc. were all to exit the business.
But by that time digital will have become as comfortable and versatile as an
old shoe, and we won't be fretting over this issue any more.


Jeremy

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote
They were making film in 1890, can't be that hard to do with
horse-and-buggy technology. Maybe the Amish will be the last
source for Tri-X?


Nicholas O. Lindan

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

The analogy wasn't about the Amish ... that was just a quip. The analogy was
the transition from horse and buggy to automobiles. It is a valid analogy.
In the case of film, when demand slips that far, film will cease to exist,
except in freezers or very exoctic uses that don't demand a constant supply
(i.e. made to order). It is still a long way off.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

It IS a bad analogy. One can make a buggy in one's barn. You can hire a
handfull of skilled people and make buggies with a small investment
in hand tools. If you are not making buggies, you can make furniture.
How much does it cost to make a production run of film? How much does
it cost to be able to make one (startup costs?)
What do you do with the factory and its employees between production
runs?
Geoff.
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Gsm@mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson

Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

Truth is, nobody knows what future developments will bring.
I concede that, if digital can yield all the advantages of film, there would
be little reason not to switch. Film would go the way of the wind-up alarm
clock. But I suspect that there may be some areas where film is more
appropriate to produce the results that a photographer wants. So I don't
see it completely disappearing, although it may shrink to becoming a very
small percentage of the overall photo market.
But I do predict that one-hour or drug store photofinishers will one day
become as extinct as Fotomat booths. The American consumer is going to be
all-digital. Of that I am convinced.


Jeremy

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