How do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

HI, i made a pinhole camera for a school project, but i dont know how
to develop the film. i cant ask my teacher, and there are no books in
any of the librarys. the paper came with directions, but i dont
understand them at all. the paper is ILFORD MGV MULTIGRADE IV RC
DELUXE. Pleeeeeeezzzzzz help me, i have to know before school starts!

Max_rodimon@yahoo.com


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

A little off topic, but, why not find or buy at a thrift shop an old
Polaroid camera that will use Type 107/667 film, saw off the whole
camera just ahead of the film pack and mate it to your pinhole box
camera, now you have a pinhole camera using a very fast film (ISO 3000)
that develops in 15 seconds?
darkroommike


Darkroommike


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

sounds like he's exposed photographic paper as his negative. Maybe this
will help.
http://photography.about.com/cs/techniques/ht/BW_Printing.htm
If you don't have the chemicals, here's a possible substitute
http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-coffee.html
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No_name


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

BTW: It seems that if you make the hole in aluminium foil, it will be
sharper than in cardboard.
Cut a larger hole in your box where you want your pinhole, glue alu foil
over it and make the hole in the foil.
Have fun!


Chris Loffredo


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

You'll have to experiment in any case.
IIRC, a pinhole is somewhere on the order of f/128 (depending on the
size of the hole & the size of the box).
Photographic paper is somewhere around 8 iso.
If those values are accurate, that should give you about 8 seconds on a
sunny day.
I'd try 2, 8 and 30 seconds.
For the test, you might want to photograph something with mid tones
(that will turn out medium grey in the final print) so you can see
middle gray also on your paper negative.


Chris Loffredo


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

Depends on the size of the "pinhole". You might try something around
8-10 seconds as a start if it is a very bright sunny day. Remember that
to see a change in exposure, you will have to double or halve the
exposure time. So, you might want to try 10, 20 and 40 second
exposures, and then develop all of them at the same time. You can write
on the back of the photo paper with a pen (sharpie) to keep records.
(remember to do this under safelights!) Hold the camera as steady as
possible.
Ron


Ron Manfredi


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

hey guys, thanks for the help. but one more question, i probably should
have asked this alot earlyer. how long should i let the photo expose in
the camera before shutting it and taking it to the darkroom?
p.s. i'm using a quaker oatmealbox & 5x7 photo paper resin coated i
think.
thanx


Max


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

Develop the paper about 1-1 1/2 minutes.
This will work fine. Just dip the print in for about 15 seconds.
Photo stores will sell
Leave the paper in the fixer about 2-3 minutes. Make sure you do not
put on the lights until the paper has been fixed at least a minute.
Wash in a tray with running water for about 4 minutes and then pat dry
with a paper towel, and let them air dry, or use a hair dryer on low to
dry the paper.
Peter gave you a great answer. Remember you will need to develop your
paper in a dark room; bathroom at night with the window covered works.
You can use a small (5-7 Watt) red bulb at least 6 feet away from the
paper developer tray as a safelight so you can see what you are doing.
Be sure to leave the paper in the fixer at least a minute before putting
on the regular "white" lights!
You will have developed a negative on a sheet of photo paper. Next step
will be to make a contact print (positive) from it.
Under the red safelight:
Place the dry negative on top of new sheet of paper. The shiney side of
the new paper should be facing up, and place the negative on top of it.
Hold it down under a clear sheet of glass (use old picture frame glass)
and then turn on the white light for about 1-2 seconds. This is where
you will have to experiment a bit to get the right exposure. Remember
that the MORE light that hits the paper, the DARKER the print will be.
Try developing the new sheet of paper, and you will have a print
(positive) of your work.
Good luck!
Ron


Ron Manfredi


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

Paper developer - Anything sold as paper developer will
work fine. Kodak Dektol (comes in a yellow foil package
of powder) is the standard one, and it is the one I use.
Some people prefer the liquid concentrates. Kodak, Ilford
and Agfa are all good. Make sure it says on the package that
it is intended for black and white paper. (Film developer
will develop paper very slowly and may not give good blacks)
Stop Bath - 1.25% acetic acid is usual. I use one part
vinegar to three parts water. Photo stores will sell
bottles of 28% acetic acid which you dilute more.
Some stop baths have indicator dye so they change
colour when carried over developer has neutralised the
acid. Ilford brand stop bath uses citric acid which
doesn't smell.
Fixer - Use any brand of rapid fixer liquid concentrate.
Dilute as directed on the bottle.
Peter.
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Peter Irwin


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

HI, i'm using paper, it is 5x7 and it is black and white. i dont have
any chemicals yet because i dont want to buy any and find out i need
more and have to make another trip out. i'm planning on doing it
myself, so all i really need is a list of good brands, and how to use
them.
thanx


Max


Re: how do I develop a photo????? PLEEEEEZ HELP!?

Hi Max,
What type of film(manufacture & size) did you use?
Knowing this will help others give you the
correct information to develop and print your
images.
If you are using film(B&W) try and see
if there is a local lab who can progess it for you.
If you are using paper for your negative then
all you would need is a dark room, a
red light (15 watts or less), a few
trays and chemistry.
There are a lot of folks who can answer your
questions. As long as we have some
idea of what your materials are, you will
get honest answers.
Draco
Getting even isn't good enough.


Draco


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