Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

I never realized exactly how far cameras had come until I started to do
some long-needed maintenance on an inherited Nikon F. I was able to
clean most of the lens mechanism, but the viewfinder is so clogged, I
don't know how I'll focus. Can professional camera shops dismantle the
viewfinder and clean it?

Jules Vide


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

Well, color me Kodachrome! Interestingly, after busting the eyepiece,
I discovered that what I will call the anterior or interior eyepiece
was the actual culprit in terms of dust collecting. When I cleaned it,
it turned out I could focus through *it*. Sure it isn't as good as
having an eyepiece, but it's still useable and frankly (to an
obsessive-compulsive cleaner) preferable to using a camera that is
dusty and filthy.
Thanks for all the input, group.


Jules Vide


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

The first Nikon F cameras (circa late 1950's) had plain prism finders.
No meter at all. Nikon introduced the Photomic F finder, which was coupled
to the shutter and lens, but had a seperate photocell that looked out
from the front. Originaly they had a little screw on telescope which
narrowed the field of view.
In 1964, Nikon quietly widened the mirror box to accomodate larger finders.
Therefore the mirror boxes and internal parts are different from the older
models and not interchangable.
The second version of the finder was called the Photomic FT. It measure light
by averaging the light on the full frame.
The third version of the finder was called the Photomic FTn. It measured
the light from the full frame, but 60% of it's metering came from a
small circle in the center. This is called "center weighted" metering.
The Photomic FTn was the best of the group, there were other improvments
to it.
All of the Photomic F finders use mercury batteries and will not work
properly with Alkeline batteries. They can be adjusted/modified to work
with them. The easiest way is to just reduce your ASA film speed by 2/3 of an
F stop. This will work with everything except slide film, and be pretty
close with it.
Parts have not been available since around 1980 or so, depending upon
what repair stores were hoarding. The big problem is that the meters
depended upon a plastic strip with carbon deposited on it. They were
never kept in large quantities as spares. They are destroyed by useage,
the carbon wears off, like the volume control of an old radio.
One can often get them to work for a while, by rubbing them with a pencil
to replace the carbon. If you do this yourself, it's worth it to keep
an old FTn meter in working condition, if you have to pay $75 each time
for someone else to do it, it's probably not.
At this point, IMHO a mint FTn is too valuable to use, a "user" if
maintained properly will run for many years, but once it goes,
without the meter.
This is true of all the "analog" Nikon cameras, the F, the pre-AI F2's,
the Nikormats and especialy the Nikkorex-F. The Nikkorex-F was NOT
made by Nikon and never sold in the quantites the other cameras
were sold in, and are more valuable due to their rarity.
Note that there was a small amount of F2 Photomic finders made in mid-1977
that were not analog and not AI. Very desirable and rare.
Geoff.
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Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

Should have sent this to you from the start:
All Nikon F finders:
http://www.cameraquest.com/nfinder.htm
General Nikon F history (shows non-metered prism):
http://www.cameraquest.com/fhistory.htm
Enjoy your F!


Chris Loffredo


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

The thin, round eyepiece glass is cheap and easy to find - it is the
same size as those used for most other classic Nikons.
It isn't even really necessary: My own F doesn't even have one. I think
it was sold as an accessory .Probably lets more dust in though.
If in Paris, a stroll down Avenue Beaumarchais will find one for sure.


Chris Loffredo


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

I do wish the antique manual I bought had a diagram correctly
identifying the parts, because half of my difficulty understanding you
and Chris has been the fact we're all three using different terms to
specify the same thing (probably!).
Not only this, but my "manual" doesn't even address what the Ftn's and
meter's operation and/or purpose are. It describes a lot of advantages
of the F, and I have a feeling this book really wasn't an operator's
manual but a kind of hard-covered, 1960's advertisement for the camera.
So if you know a site where I could 1) buy a busted Ftn, specifically
for a new eyepiece, or 2) read in depth about this nice antique, I'd
appreciate learning here.


Jules Vide


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

New replacement parts for Nikon F have not been available for years. Your
only hope is to find a replacement finder.
Jim


Jim


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

"Jules Vide" <passepasrien@yahoo.com> wrote
But what is it you have: Finder or Prism?
Finder (Ftn) = big boxy chrome thing w/ lots of buttons
Prism = low 'trapezoidal thing w/ no buttons
The cheapest solution may be to buy a well busted
fisim with an intact eyepiece [or whatever] lens.
Ftn has become sort of a generic name for Nikon F metered
finders though some are Fts or Photomics or ?
Inoperative Ftn & Co. finders were easy to find,
and cheap, because for a while there was no way
to fix the meter. Now there is a man who fixes
the meters.
Prism finders are somewhat rare and priced
higher than they should be -- collectors.


Nicholas O. Lindan


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

Well, I managed to do all this, but :( I broke the chiclet-size glass.
(There was a very fine crack in it already, and I have a feeling
someone *might* have tried to clean it before. But I don't feel TOO
bad, because, behind this piece of glass further into the prism, a
second similarly-size (chiclet) glass proved to be the part clogged
with dust.
I cleaned it magnificently and will try to find someone who just might
be able to replace the eyepiece-glass. Anyway, guys, I regret nothing
about this and am glad I broke for free what a repairman would have
broken anyway for big bucks.
I'll let you know if I get a replacement glass, and post again if I
need an entire replacement prism.


Jules Vide


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

"Chris Loffredo" <me@privacy.net> wrote
Of course I automatically assume the back of an FTn finder is
just like the plain prism finder
Dear Mr. Vide:
Sorry that not much has been making sense. Or
_shouldn't_ have been making sense.


Nicholas O. Lindan


Re: Can You Clean Nikon F Viewfinder?

Actually, I don't think he mentioned which he has, which also causes me
to doubt the value of my advice.
Of course I automatically assume all "F"s have Ftn finders...
;-)


Chris Loffredo


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