The Digital Fad

I talked with two women this week about film. One, I was buying a roll of
slide film at a drug store and the woman said she had a digital but the card
was now full and she didn't know how to print them out with the printer her
kids bought her. The other was cutting my hair and said she didn't like the
lag time (I told her to try turning off the display) but said she still had
to fiddle around printing them out and felt it took as much time as dropping
them off at the developers. I'm wondering that unless they put WI-FI in all
digital cameras which will allow people to walk past their printer and print
their photos, if this digital thing will start to fade away? A lot of
people that tell you how they can just print out their photos are not really
doing it. They are saving them for when they have the time. I'm not saying
this is true in all cases. So those that write back saying their 90 year
grandmother prints them out are not really making a point about all the
"soccer moms" that don't have the time for printing out and sorting out 1000
photos. This is a problem that the camera manufacturers will need to look
into if the digital fad is going to fly with the 20-55 female that has
better things to do. What say you?

Ric Trexell

Re: The Digital Fad

"Doug Robbins" <crobbins6@triad.rr.com> writes:
If I'm still around in the year 2306 and find my photos haven't
survived, I'll be mighty pissed! ;)


Toni Nikkanen

Re: The Digital Fad

If I'm still around in the year 2306 I will be one very surprised
photographer.
Doug


Doug Robbins

Re: The Digital Fad

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both ways: digital photos, prints without a headache.
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Raven

Re: The Digital Fad

But remember that gold is ONLY used as a reflector.
The gold doesn't hold the pits that indicate the ones and zeroes...
You're still stuck with whatever dye or substance they use to record the
burn.
I've had older disks fail...but the reflective layer was perfect...the
surface was perfect...and the original burn was verified and perfect. The
only culprit left is the dye. Dye doesn't care what it's pits are reflected
off of.
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MarkČ

Re: The Digital Fad

I'm glad you're happy with that method, and I certainly think its fine that
way. For *me*, it would still be handing over more control than I prefer.
I'd rather follow my own directions. :) But then maybe I'm just a control
freak...
Right. :)
There is no question that handling everything yourself eats up time. Under
greater time constraints, I might have to change my ways. I do this mostly
for fun, and find that if I'm doing it for pay, the fun-factor decreases
significantly. :)
Ya, there are problem with black & white with my current printer...which is
fantastic for archival color, but a problem for producing neutral greys...
I'm thinking of buying a dedicated printer for black & white...
Anyway... You make good points, and have something that works for you.
:)
-MarkČ
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MarkČ

Re: The Digital Fad

Yes you can and I'm doing it. That is to say, if you have access to a
photo lab. The key is the lab doing the processing. I would and in some
cases do, take my film or digital photos to a lab and have them first
make proofs for me to mark and make comments on. Those that get printed
are marked with printing directions, just as I did in the old days
before digital. I didn't spend thousands of dollars for my equipment
just to have Cosco, K-Mart, Wal-Mart, or any one-hour kiosk staffed by a
high school bubble-gummer, process my photos. Their output is marginally
better than contact prints. If one-hour processed contact type prints
satisfied me I would just as soon return to using film and forgo
digital, saving myself thousands of dollars 'cause I already had film
equipment.
I suppose it's best to say what I chose to do is dependent upon the
shooting scenes and what I intend to accomplish within a time frame.
Lots of time on my hands means I'll process at home digitizing my film
shots or downloading digitals. Pressed for time means I'll use a photo
lab. In addition, I find the countless hours glued to my computer
processing and printing my photos deprives me of the pleasures I get
from being in the field shooting pictures.
At least if a lab is faulty you can still process and save a photo
regardless of the source being a flash card or film. OTOH, if the image
stinks of its own accord, nothing will save the shot. I would guess we
all have had photos that should be circled filed and never be shown.
Digital as well as home processing does indeed have its advantages,
Mark. I would not be one to argue the issue. In a non professional
manner, I'm learning at times, using film in addition to digital has its
advantages too. I like the results I get when using Ilford Delta or XP2,
Fuji Provia, or Kodak Tri-X. Using them means I don't have to spend time
on the computer trying to duplicate the affect (enhancement or lack
thereof) certain films have on an image. Besides, film has now just
about become equal to digital in associated processing costs and an easy
way (and inexpensive way) to full frame, when needed or desired. ;)


Nick c

Re: The Digital Fad

Oh well then what a foolish suggestion I made sniff sniff...
[idiot tuck tail and scurries away]
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AAvK

Re: The Digital Fad

Naw naw naw... I know I havn't, but did you do the research online? Can you
show me those links? Because I know my suggestion is far better than your qualms
suggest, my friend. Gold is gold and does corrode. I have had cd-r's that snap apart
like they were 'nothing' and other aluminum based ones with outer layers that were
so tough it was nearly impossible to snap them by bending. Take those and replace
the aluminum with gold, and you have something far more reliable. No qualms
needed IMO. Ad? What ad?
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AAvK

Re: The Digital Fad

You not only will have to put your gold CD's in a sealed glass box fed by a
dry nitrogen bottle under slight positive pressure and refrigerated to -40
degrees for 300 years, but you will have to seal up a complete, working
computer including a CD readable drive along with it. I don't know about
you, but my pictures certainly aren't worth it.....


William Graham

Re: The Digital Fad

"AAvK" <Idondodat@wahoo.com> wrote in
Three hundred years from now, we'll (well, not you or I in all
probability) be viewing three-dimensional holographic images with sound
and smell stored on crystal matrices, and will consider flat photos rated
in <snort> "megapixels" as laughingly primitive.
"Why does it look so bad?"
"It was called, '48-bit color'."
"And look! You can't even change the lighting!"
;-)
- Al.
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Al Denelsbeck

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